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	<title>Comments on: A rock-solid setup for sending SMTP mail from your EC2 web server</title>
	<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/</link>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Paul Dowman</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-50724</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Dowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-50724</guid>
		<description>Pravin,
AuthSMTP requires all "from" addresses need to be registered and authorized individually, you do that at http://control.authsmtp.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pravin,<br />
AuthSMTP requires all &#8220;from&#8221; addresses need to be registered and authorized individually, you do that at <a href="http://control.authsmtp.com." rel="nofollow">http://control.authsmtp.com.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pravin</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-50722</link>
		<dc:creator>Pravin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-50722</guid>
		<description>Hi 
I installed Postfix with Amazon Ec2 instance.
I am using relay host mail.authsmtp.com .
I done all the configuration in the Postfix configuration file.
I am getting this error in the SMTP control panel.
Error :  	Envelope From Address of  is not authorised - go to: http://control.authsmtp.com

Any one can me tell that how i can resolve this?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I installed Postfix with Amazon Ec2 instance.<br />
I am using relay host mail.authsmtp.com .<br />
I done all the configuration in the Postfix configuration file.<br />
I am getting this error in the SMTP control panel.<br />
Error :  	Envelope From Address of  is not authorised - go to: <a href="http://control.authsmtp.com" rel="nofollow">http://control.authsmtp.com</a></p>
<p>Any one can me tell that how i can resolve this?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: zardoz</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-48716</link>
		<dc:creator>zardoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-48716</guid>
		<description>Thanks so much for this Paul, works beautifully on our setup sending ~500k emails per month. I am still amazed how much easier/more 'english' the Postfix configuration is than Sendmail. Glad to be rid of that POS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for this Paul, works beautifully on our setup sending ~500k emails per month. I am still amazed how much easier/more &#8216;english&#8217; the Postfix configuration is than Sendmail. Glad to be rid of that POS.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-48211</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-48211</guid>
		<description>I also relay my emails to a postfix relay server on a slicehost account that has the correct DNS PTR records.  Emails to hotmail went to the spam folder so I had to remove email headers containing the internal EC2 hostname.  This is done in the postfix relay servers main.cf:

header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/maps/header_checks

And the in /etc/postfix/maps/header_checks:

# Sample For Dropping Headers:
#/^Header: IfContains/  IGNORE
/^Received: from domU-12-34-56-78-90-AB.compute-1.internal/     IGNORE
/^Received: by domU-12-34-56-78-90-AB.compute-1.internal/       IGNORE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also relay my emails to a postfix relay server on a slicehost account that has the correct DNS PTR records.  Emails to hotmail went to the spam folder so I had to remove email headers containing the internal EC2 hostname.  This is done in the postfix relay servers main.cf:</p>
<p>header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/maps/header_checks</p>
<p>And the in /etc/postfix/maps/header_checks:</p>
<p># Sample For Dropping Headers:<br />
#/^Header: IfContains/  IGNORE<br />
/^Received: from domU-12-34-56-78-90-AB.compute-1.internal/     IGNORE<br />
/^Received: by domU-12-34-56-78-90-AB.compute-1.internal/       IGNORE</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-47798</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-47798</guid>
		<description>Ok well if I hard code the the internal IP of the frontend instance in the $mynetworks variable in main.cf, like 10.x.x.x, it will connect and send the mail.  However, this IP changes for every frontend server.  How can I get the server to allow all mail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok well if I hard code the the internal IP of the frontend instance in the $mynetworks variable in main.cf, like 10.x.x.x, it will connect and send the mail.  However, this IP changes for every frontend server.  How can I get the server to allow all mail?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-47646</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-47646</guid>
		<description>Paul,

Thanks for the tutorial.  How can I adjust the config file to allow all my frontend instances relay through one centralized postfix server in the same security group?  I can't figure out how to get it to allow connections from my other instances.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Thanks for the tutorial.  How can I adjust the config file to allow all my frontend instances relay through one centralized postfix server in the same security group?  I can&#8217;t figure out how to get it to allow connections from my other instances.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-47509</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-47509</guid>
		<description>Shaokun - I too have had an issue recently with emails to yahoo addresses disappearing when sent from AuthSMTP.  I just filled out the link you provided - if you have heard anything from Yahoo, please let us know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaokun - I too have had an issue recently with emails to yahoo addresses disappearing when sent from AuthSMTP.  I just filled out the link you provided - if you have heard anything from Yahoo, please let us know.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaokun</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-47434</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaokun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-47434</guid>
		<description>Good post! I have followed this article and set up AuthSMTP for our web site. But recently, a few of the customers who use yahoo account complaint that they never get the emails. I check it and found that with AuthSMTP, those emails to yahoo just got disappeared. Without AuthSMTP, just SPF, they were caught in the trash folder.

So I asked the support of AuthSMTP. They suggest to fill the form from Yahoo:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/bulkv2.html

Have filled that form, but so far, no feedback and no help at all.

Any idea? Seems that other people have the same problem too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post! I have followed this article and set up AuthSMTP for our web site. But recently, a few of the customers who use yahoo account complaint that they never get the emails. I check it and found that with AuthSMTP, those emails to yahoo just got disappeared. Without AuthSMTP, just SPF, they were caught in the trash folder.</p>
<p>So I asked the support of AuthSMTP. They suggest to fill the form from Yahoo:<br />
<a href="http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/bulkv2.html" rel="nofollow">http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/bulkv2.html</a></p>
<p>Have filled that form, but so far, no feedback and no help at all.</p>
<p>Any idea? Seems that other people have the same problem too.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dowman</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-45722</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Dowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-45722</guid>
		<description>Prakash: It might help to have an "Elastic IP" that you've controlled for a while, but I don't really know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prakash: It might help to have an &#8220;Elastic IP&#8221; that you&#8217;ve controlled for a while, but I don&#8217;t really know.</p>
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		<title>By: Prakash</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-45721</link>
		<dc:creator>Prakash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-45721</guid>
		<description>I heard Amazon has started giving static IPs. Does it clear this problem in any way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Amazon has started giving static IPs. Does it clear this problem in any way?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-44311</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-44311</guid>
		<description>Awesome.  Came in handy in a pinch.  Thanks for the contribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome.  Came in handy in a pinch.  Thanks for the contribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dowman</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-43824</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Dowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 13:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-43824</guid>
		<description>Oh, you mean the postfix daemon has died and isn't accepting SMTP connections. You don't need to use SMTP to send mail from your app if the mail server on the same instance. You can use "sendmail style" delivery, which I'm pretty sure will work even if the postfix daemon is dead or isn't accepting SMTP connections. The mail will be queued locally until postfix is running again.

I haven't tested that though, it's just what I think will happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you mean the postfix daemon has died and isn&#8217;t accepting SMTP connections. You don&#8217;t need to use SMTP to send mail from your app if the mail server on the same instance. You can use &#8220;sendmail style&#8221; delivery, which I&#8217;m pretty sure will work even if the postfix daemon is dead or isn&#8217;t accepting SMTP connections. The mail will be queued locally until postfix is running again.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t tested that though, it&#8217;s just what I think will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Ploetz</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-43802</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Ploetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 03:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-43802</guid>
		<description>Hey Paul,

Regarding the Postfix failures, I was referring to the case where Postfix has fallen over for some reason and your attempt to queue an outbound email thus fails...in other words, the message never gets queued to begin with. I suppose you would have to persist that message somewhere (db/local queue) to be sent again at a later time. But at that point you're in the situation where you need an async process to pull things off of this failure queue, and then you're kind of back at square one again, and why not just put things into a queue to begin with? Assuming your assertion of SQS latency is accurate, perhaps that's a local fast queue instead.

I realize these are edge cases, and these aren't exactly financial transactions we're talking about here either, so a lost email here and there isn't exactly the end of the world. I'm just curious how other people out there have approached this problem in the context of Rails where throughput depends on getting in and out of the HTTP request/response cycle as quickly as possible.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul,</p>
<p>Regarding the Postfix failures, I was referring to the case where Postfix has fallen over for some reason and your attempt to queue an outbound email thus fails&#8230;in other words, the message never gets queued to begin with. I suppose you would have to persist that message somewhere (db/local queue) to be sent again at a later time. But at that point you&#8217;re in the situation where you need an async process to pull things off of this failure queue, and then you&#8217;re kind of back at square one again, and why not just put things into a queue to begin with? Assuming your assertion of SQS latency is accurate, perhaps that&#8217;s a local fast queue instead.</p>
<p>I realize these are edge cases, and these aren&#8217;t exactly financial transactions we&#8217;re talking about here either, so a lost email here and there isn&#8217;t exactly the end of the world. I&#8217;m just curious how other people out there have approached this problem in the context of Rails where throughput depends on getting in and out of the HTTP request/response cycle as quickly as possible.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dowman</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-43800</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Dowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 02:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-43800</guid>
		<description>Brian,

In general I'd say that queueing a small job which causes the email to be sent from another process is a good idea, especially if you're queueing other things to speed up your page loads, but I'd recommend not using SQS for this because SQS is *extremely* slow (i.e. high latency). I find that queuing SQS messages frequently takes well over 100ms which is way too slow to do while responding to a web request.

If you're using a queue to speed up page loads, use a fast local queue. If the only thing you're queueing is email sending, and you're sending just one or two emails per web request, you might consider just using a local postfix instead for simplicity.

To address your two questions: yes, I find the response time adequate to keep Rails throughput acceptable (though some queues would definitely be faster) and yes there's a small chance that a message could be lost while in transit in the local postfix (e.g. if the instance dies), but the messages don't stay in there for long, postfix sends them out quickly enough that it doesn't build up a queue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>In general I&#8217;d say that queueing a small job which causes the email to be sent from another process is a good idea, especially if you&#8217;re queueing other things to speed up your page loads, but I&#8217;d recommend not using SQS for this because SQS is *extremely* slow (i.e. high latency). I find that queuing SQS messages frequently takes well over 100ms which is way too slow to do while responding to a web request.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re using a queue to speed up page loads, use a fast local queue. If the only thing you&#8217;re queueing is email sending, and you&#8217;re sending just one or two emails per web request, you might consider just using a local postfix instead for simplicity.</p>
<p>To address your two questions: yes, I find the response time adequate to keep Rails throughput acceptable (though some queues would definitely be faster) and yes there&#8217;s a small chance that a message could be lost while in transit in the local postfix (e.g. if the instance dies), but the messages don&#8217;t stay in there for long, postfix sends them out quickly enough that it doesn&#8217;t build up a queue.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Ploetz</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-43793</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Ploetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-43793</guid>
		<description>Thanks for this article Paul (and the awesome ec2onrails!)

Question: I had been planning on using Amazon SQS to queue emails that need to be sent (not the actual email, but a small data structure of what email needs to be sent to whom). Then, using the activemessaging plugin (or similiar), I would pull things off the queue and actually send the email. The goal of all of this machinery is to keep the actual sending of the email out of the HTTP request/response cycle so Rails throughput doesn't get bogged down with potentially long running actions. I have this all running locally and it works fine.

However, I'm now wondering if this is all overkill if mail is delivered to a local Postfix server on an ec2 instance. Do you find the response times of the local Postfix adequate to keep Rails throughput acceptable? How do you deal with failures if Postfix goes down for some reason, such that you don't lose emails?

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this article Paul (and the awesome ec2onrails!)</p>
<p>Question: I had been planning on using Amazon SQS to queue emails that need to be sent (not the actual email, but a small data structure of what email needs to be sent to whom). Then, using the activemessaging plugin (or similiar), I would pull things off the queue and actually send the email. The goal of all of this machinery is to keep the actual sending of the email out of the HTTP request/response cycle so Rails throughput doesn&#8217;t get bogged down with potentially long running actions. I have this all running locally and it works fine.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m now wondering if this is all overkill if mail is delivered to a local Postfix server on an ec2 instance. Do you find the response times of the local Postfix adequate to keep Rails throughput acceptable? How do you deal with failures if Postfix goes down for some reason, such that you don&#8217;t lose emails?</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Subho</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-41800</link>
		<dc:creator>Subho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-41800</guid>
		<description>Hello Paul,

Thanks for your gr8 post on authsmtp configuration. I am using an EC2 server for sending mails through authsmtp. I am not using any mail queue system; which I don't think will be an issue for mails going to SPAM folder of hotmail / yahoo boxes. With yahoo is the main issue.

Kindly suggest what more can I do to fix the issue.

Thanks in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Paul,</p>
<p>Thanks for your gr8 post on authsmtp configuration. I am using an EC2 server for sending mails through authsmtp. I am not using any mail queue system; which I don&#8217;t think will be an issue for mails going to SPAM folder of hotmail / yahoo boxes. With yahoo is the main issue.</p>
<p>Kindly suggest what more can I do to fix the issue.</p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dowman</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-40864</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Dowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-40864</guid>
		<description>Josh: As you probably guessed, by "local" I mean on the same instance. My app delivers to the mail server on localhost, which (almost instantly) relays it to the real mail server. That helps my app get it's pages served up quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh: As you probably guessed, by &#8220;local&#8221; I mean on the same instance. My app delivers to the mail server on localhost, which (almost instantly) relays it to the real mail server. That helps my app get it&#8217;s pages served up quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh White</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-40858</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-40858</guid>
		<description>Never mind.  I figured it out, sorry for that!
-josh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind.  I figured it out, sorry for that!<br />
-josh</p>
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		<title>By: Josh White</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-40857</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-40857</guid>
		<description>Hello Paul, and thanks for the excellent post. I think I may be missing the mark on one thing though - 


"Rather than deliver directly to the AuthSMTP mail server from your web app it’s a good idea to deliver to a local queueing mail server, which will forward via the AuthSMTP gateway. Your web app will deliver mail to localhost (or perhaps a dedicated instance if you prefer), port 25."
What's the best strategy for doing this in a dynamic environment? Multiple web app servers will be going up and down, so how can I configure postfix to forward to a queueing server?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Paul, and thanks for the excellent post. I think I may be missing the mark on one thing though - </p>
<p>&#8220;Rather than deliver directly to the AuthSMTP mail server from your web app it’s a good idea to deliver to a local queueing mail server, which will forward via the AuthSMTP gateway. Your web app will deliver mail to localhost (or perhaps a dedicated instance if you prefer), port 25.&#8221;<br />
What&#8217;s the best strategy for doing this in a dynamic environment? Multiple web app servers will be going up and down, so how can I configure postfix to forward to a queueing server?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dowman</title>
		<link>http://pauldowman.com/2008/02/17/smtp-mail-from-ec2-web-server-setup/#comment-40708</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Dowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sascha: Thanks for the pflogsumm tip. Another option is logwatch, it's a bit more general though so I don't know how it compares in the detail of the report. It gives daily summaries of system activity, it reports on lots of things like disk space, apache logs, login activity, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sascha: Thanks for the pflogsumm tip. Another option is logwatch, it&#8217;s a bit more general though so I don&#8217;t know how it compares in the detail of the report. It gives daily summaries of system activity, it reports on lots of things like disk space, apache logs, login activity, etc.</p>
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